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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2017, 04:50:52 PM »

Yes, I believe this would be pleasing to God

  Arte you actually talking about including religion and law?? We should allow lawbreakers in because you believe it pleases God? Then why bother with laws and borders and the like?

   Why should this group have special treatment?
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2017, 04:58:08 PM »

Yes, I believe this would be pleasing to God

  Arte you actually talking about including religion and law?? We should allow lawbreakers in because you believe it pleases God? Then why bother with laws and borders and the like?

   Why should this group have special treatment?

In his ever-lovin' mind (the mind he's clearly out of), for the same reason we should import hordes of Iraqi/Syrian/muslim "refugees" without extensive vetting (for which their in-country databases don't exist), despite the risks to America and Americans.

I'm thoroughly disgusted by him and others like him who like to put on God their inability to think like rational adults.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2017, 05:41:32 PM »

Yes, I believe this would be pleasing to God

  Arte you actually talking about including religion and law?? We should allow lawbreakers in because you believe it pleases God? Then why bother with laws and borders and the like?

   Why should this group have special treatment?

In his ever-lovin' mind (the mind he's clearly out of), for the same reason we should import hordes of Iraqi/Syrian/muslim "refugees" without extensive vetting (for which their in-country databases don't exist), despite the risks to America and Americans.

I'm thoroughly disgusted by him and others like him who like to put on God their inability to think like rational adults.


 I'm waiting to see his answer to my questions.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2017, 07:53:31 PM »

I’m not making a case here that I have the answer to the precise policy that America should use. In fact, I’m not even arguing here about policy or politics. Instead, I’m making the argument that the biblical view of immigrants and refugees is simple—they’re like us, and we’re like them. Furthermore, the Bible is clear that we are to do something in favor of justice, always—and that we are to find a way for the person seeking asylum to have it. And finally, there must be room for the immigrant in the world to have the same rights as everyone else.

No matter how we welcome the refugee and immigrant—no matter how we choose precisely to be hospitable and loving—we must acknowledge that the Christian response is love.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2017, 08:08:25 PM »

I’m not making a case here that I have the answer to the precise policy that America should use. In fact, I’m not even arguing here about policy or politics. Instead, I’m making the argument that the biblical view of immigrants and refugees is simple—they’re like us, and we’re like them. Furthermore, the Bible is clear that we are to do something in favor of justice, always—and that we are to find a way for the person seeking asylum to have it. And finally, there must be room for the immigrant in the world to have the same rights as everyone else.

No matter how we welcome the refugee and immigrant—no matter how we choose precisely to be hospitable and loving—we must acknowledge that the Christian response is love.


 You can love them all you want . But as an immigrant that did it legally my argument is that I want them to do it the same way. Put in the work and you are more than welcome to come in.  Refugees are another matter all together we have legal ways of doing that too.   

    They can't just show up and say here I am love me.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2017, 04:30:06 AM »

These DACA kids are starting with a disadvantage: their parents do not have a respect for the law.

That being said, I still would have no problem with them staying provided they have not broken any laws, speak English, have or are getting an education. If they do a hitch or two in our military and are honorably discharged, I'd even favor instant citizenship for them.

Their parents need to be deported, and banned from reentry.

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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2017, 07:43:04 AM »

These DACA kids are starting with a disadvantage: their parents do not have a respect for the law.

That being said, I still would have no problem with them staying provided they have not broken any laws, speak English, have or are getting an education. If they do a hitch or two in our military and are honorably discharged, I'd even favor instant citizenship for them.

Their parents need to be deported, and banned from reentry.




   You mean residency right?
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2017, 03:53:28 PM »

These DACA kids are starting with a disadvantage: their parents do not have a respect for the law.

That being said, I still would have no problem with them staying provided they have not broken any laws, speak English, have or are getting an education. If they do a hitch or two in our military and are honorably discharged, I'd even favor instant citizenship for them.

Their parents need to be deported, and banned from reentry.



I like that idea.
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