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« Reply #105 on: September 04, 2015, 10:26:32 AM »

For goodness sake's, Pi. Are you now telling me you haven't directly, and intentionally, insulted me personally?

Yes, I sure have.  Your actions have warranted it.  

And to get the record straight, I am no preacher, nor have I been called by God to do so. My calling is defending the faith. But also know this, I am a horrible sinner, and even consider myself one of the worst, as I totally relate to the Apostle Paul when he stated he knows what he should be doing, yet doesn't do it; and does what he knows he shouldn't be doing. Yet, God used him for Kingdom work! Just like ALL the other humans recorded in Scriptures where God used them too in accomplishing His plan.

Lastly, why not have the aforementioned preacher contact me either here, or personally (I will give you the personal info) to discuss the matter? I would love to speak with him/her about it.

Perhaps one of your sins is arrogance.  Or maybe pride.  Or both.  Since you are a horrible sinner, maybe my criticism of you personally is well founded.

The preacher might or might not want to talk to you directly.  All I can do is pass along your info.  But send it via private message, please.
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« Reply #106 on: September 04, 2015, 10:28:09 AM »

Pi, I am willing to move on. You, however, continue to post errant assumptions, and misunderstandings, and I am replying to these.

For the life of me, if you don't want to talk about the reasons why you concluded your worldview, then stop making truth claims without providing the reasons why you hold to said truth claims. You continue to do it, and I will continue to call you out on it.

I can't quite convey the level of disbelief...   What truth claims did I make that upset you so?  I'm honestly confused.
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« Reply #107 on: September 04, 2015, 10:28:17 AM »

I think I've had enough of this conversation too.  In fact, I typed a reply to one of Jeff's last posts directed at me.  In light of the subsequent statements and replies, I no longer think it warrants the time to respond.
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« Reply #108 on: September 04, 2015, 10:31:19 AM »

I think I've had enough of this conversation too.  In fact, I typed a reply to one of Jeff's last posts directed at me.  In light of the subsequent statements and replies, I no longer think it warrants the time to respond.

I came to the same conclusion last night, but it annoys me so much when people put words in my mouth I let it get the best of me and I've kept posting.
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« Reply #109 on: September 04, 2015, 10:34:59 AM »

CHF,

You are reading this and I respect your opinion on this matter as a knowledgeable Christian.  Give it to me straight. 

Are the world's problems, outside of the lack of faith in God, irrelevant?  Is it truly a waste of time to debate the impact of socialism and the merits of capitalism?  Am I wasting my time discussing those things?  Or even thinking about them?  Are they nothing but severe distractions, as Jeff said?

You're a politically active guy and a man of faith.  Should one fight the battle on multiple fronts or just focus on bringing people to God?

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« Reply #110 on: September 04, 2015, 10:39:25 AM »

Good grief, Pi! Does this ever end with you? I NEVER said these things you listed are not of critical importance; I am suggesting there is something else people need to be focusing on, which is their salvation and where they will spend eternity. The ramifications of such pale in comparison if one considers the potential eternal consequences.  
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« Reply #111 on: September 04, 2015, 10:41:09 AM »

Pi, you have personally asked me to stop posting on this thread, and I will certainly respect that. But if you continue to directly, or indirectly, address me, I will continue to respond.
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« Reply #112 on: September 04, 2015, 10:44:46 AM »

I think I've had enough of this conversation too.  In fact, I typed a reply to one of Jeff's last posts directed at me.  In light of the subsequent statements and replies, I no longer think it warrants the time to respond.

And this comes as no surprise to me, as such a thing is common based upon my experiences with you.
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« Reply #113 on: September 04, 2015, 10:47:12 AM »

If anyone wishes to address any of the aforementioned issues, let's please take it to the "To Jeff" thread Pi started. As Pi mentioned, this thread would be best left to the topic in its title. Thanks!
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« Reply #114 on: September 04, 2015, 10:52:50 AM »

The full, disturbing, unedited video:

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/02/full-unedited-video-how-planned-parenthood-gets-body-parts-the-babys-abdomen-is-ripped-open/

Although it is such a terrible, heart-breaking tragedy, the intentions of main-stream-media are clear in diverting attention from the PP issue:

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/03/networks-show-heartbreaking-image-of-aylan-censor-dead-babies-in-planned-parenthood-videos/
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« Reply #115 on: September 04, 2015, 12:38:25 PM »

CHF,

You are reading this and I respect your opinion on this matter as a knowledgeable Christian.  Give it to me straight. 

Are the world's problems, outside of the lack of faith in God, irrelevant?  Is it truly a waste of time to debate the impact of socialism and the merits of capitalism?  Am I wasting my time discussing those things?  Or even thinking about them?  Are they nothing but severe distractions, as Jeff said?

You're a politically active guy and a man of faith.  Should one fight the battle on multiple fronts or just focus on bringing people to God?



Greetings, Pi.  I have carefully stayed out of this as I have respect for both of you, and I do not desire to cause further dissension between two or three people who are really in my view, on the same page and the same side.

I have thought I understood several things in my life, yet I am constantly rethinking them.

Is faith in God the primarily important thing. Yes. I think so. It is His grace that offers us hope. And it requires faith.  But, there are likewise logical evidences that POINT TO the existence of God and a justification for our Faith. (I see a technical difference between evidence and proof.  Evidence points in a direction and increases FAITH. Proof requires no faith. That difference may seem petty and small to some, but it is huge to me. That also does not require any of you to see it the same way.

I also believe that good men can see things differently. I cannot condemn Jeff, if he were, and I am not saying he has said this, but if he were to say " "Render unto God the things that are God's and unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" means that as a Christian I can only serve God and not participate in Government. " My view is different, since in OUR form of Government, we the people are Caesar, and as such have the authority to make decisions and participate. But, part of our freedoms mean that you also have the right not to participate. Either way, you take the consequences.

I can point to Kings in the old testament who were a punishment from God, upon a wicked people. It was in essence the people themselves being punished. The land of Canaan was removed from the people that lived there, in part because they "made their children pass through the fire."  My view is that the people bore the responsibility, and the consequences before God, even those who might not have had children, lost their homes and their lives as punishment from God. 

So, the short answer is that I have chosen for me, to see Christ as primary and not to neglect the secondary things, things which I think separate my country and my people from God, if not dealt with.  And, I accept others may view this differently. Some religions reject ANY participation in government, even voting.  I am willing to allow every man to decide for himself, since he will stand as an individual before God in the end. I just pray Christ is there to be my advocate. 

Peace to all of you. I hope I have answered clearly, but beware it is my OPINION based on my own studies and experiences and no one will be judged by my words, only by Christ in the end.
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« Reply #116 on: September 04, 2015, 02:22:16 PM »

Thank you CHF. 


I do not desire to cause further dissension between two or three people who are really in my view, on the same page and the same side.

We were on the same page about 48 hours ago.  But his actions and lack of contrition or respect has proved to me that he is not on my side.  He is unable to distinguish friend from foe and has treated me as if I were a foe.  Now I must follow suit.
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« Reply #117 on: September 04, 2015, 08:21:21 PM »

Thank you CHF. 


I do not desire to cause further dissension between two or three people who are really in my view, on the same page and the same side.

We were on the same page about 48 hours ago.  But his actions and lack of contrition or respect has proved to me that he is not on my side.  He is unable to distinguish friend from foe and has treated me as if I were a foe.  Now I must follow suit.


  "Now I must follow suit"      No you don't have to but it is your choice to make.  I'm not much on turning the cheek but it doesn't have to be an all consuming thing to the point that you would leave BBS.  Everything isn't always resolved perfectly but is it worth this level of discord between people that have more in common than not?


      As you were.
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« Reply #118 on: September 18, 2015, 01:22:06 PM »

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« Reply #119 on: September 18, 2015, 06:13:17 PM »

 welcome back.


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