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« on: March 09, 2010, 12:50:34 PM »

Just had a dude walk up in my yard as I was working out there. Supposedly with ADT Security System. Vehicle descript, license plate...well, he is on foot, no sign of a vehicle. Yeah, right! Maybe I'll see he can stay for lunch also! HA!
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 06:03:37 PM »

I used to work for ADT in Ohio and then Moved to Pittsboro to work for CPI Security, I ended up leaving ADt and CPI because of their policy for self generating business, they require there sales people to door knocking! In these times I believe it is a wast of time and invasion of privacy so I would not do it.

Be very careful if a person comes up to you while your working out side or knocks on your door and represents them self as a security rep, make them prove it, they should have a NC license and a company ID card plus a business card. If they do not, turn them away and or tell them you will contact the police. Post a sign on your door or property that says no soliciting and or no trespassing. The best this you can do is purchase a home security system if you can afford it.

People have been poising as security salesmen so they could check out your home or property and then come back and rob you. It happens and if you googel it I am sure you will find some info.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 06:42:10 PM »

An ADT guy just stopped at my house and looked like he was on his last leg, smoking a cig and shirt was a mess.  I guess sales must be slow and finding folks to door knock must be hard.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 06:55:42 PM »

He was actually at my neighbors house and upon leaving noticed me and just walked over. I had just gone out to work in my yard FINALLY to enjoy a beautiful day and this buzzard swooped in (ON FOOT, I again add?).
I didn't waste time asking for ID etc. Told him to get OFF my property NOW. Then "kindly let him know whenever I need a service, I directly contact a company and not via what I consider to be a trespasser".

I am going to call the company and complain (if this fool was even really a representative at all). Did so with those vac morons and they stopped coming!
Sorry, I just don't like these sort of invasions.
I wouldn't buy/change to their security system for anything now due to this event. Poor practice IMO!
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 10:20:07 PM »

My 3 big dogs like to keep these kinds of people off my porch! Grin
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2010, 10:38:06 PM »

nothing works as well as dogs enclosed in a high, gated fence.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 01:26:20 AM »

Oh, I don't know Belle!  We have invisible fencing with a 60 lb chow, lab, retriever mix.  When the guys/gals start walking up my short driveway and the dog comes flying from the back yard.....they run for the hills.  His bark is much worse than his bite but they don't know that!  The funniest part is the dog can't even get to the front sidewalk let alone the front door, again they don't know that.  I have yet to have one knock on my door since we have had the dog!!   Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 01:35:00 AM »

much as I hate to say it, Leeb had one good post:


Belle,

Assuming you actually want an answer, here's what I can think of off the top of my head.

1. For personal safety as well as the safety of your home: situational awareness.  Pay attention to your surroundings.

2. Be close to your neighbors.  Have a basic idea of their schedules and pay attention to what goes on over there.  You're not being nosy, you're being a good neighbor.

3. Get in the habit of locking your doors and windows.  Rarely do I go through an exterior door without locking it behind me.

4. Thieves, like everyone else, covet what they see.  Try to avoid putting valuables where someone peering in a window can see them.  Buy curtains and blinds.  Use them.

5. Make your front door so that you can see them, but they can't see you.  Peepholes are okay.  A window with a two way mirror is better.

6. People with odd schedules have less of a chance of getting robbed.  Not saying one needs to rearrange their life for this.  Just stating the fact.

7. A well lit exterior is a very good idea.  If the goblin decides to approach a window of door, they usually won't stick around long if they feel like they're on stage and in the spotlight.

8. Don't give them a place to hide.  Bushes and shrubs outside your windows look nice, but they can provide a place to hide.  If you have to have bushes, get something thorny.

9. Put something outside the window that makes noise when you step on it.  Some kinds of gravel, especially if you have it loose and deep, make all sorts of racket.

10. Buy some cheap light timers so that, even if your schedule is consistent, the lights might throw them off.

11. Get a dog with a loud bark.  Nothing makes a goblin think twice more than a big dog.  If you don't have a dog, you can buy motion detectors that will make a barking sound.

12. If you are going to be away from home for a while, make sure your neighbors keep an eye on things.  Ask them to park their car in your driveway.

13. Make a point of retreat.  Make the door for the master bedroom heavy duty.  Keep your cell phone charged and right by the bedside.  In the unlikely event that your phone wires are cut, you'll still be able to call for help.

14.  Most importantly: put yourself in the thief's shoes.  How would you get in the house?  Try to open your doors using an old credit or grocery store card.  This exercise will help you identify any weaknesses.

15. Don't give copies of your keys to anyone.  If you have your car repaired, take the house keys off the ring.  Think about it.  The repairman knows where you live and has ample time to make copies of your key.

16. Don't leave notes on the door for relatives if you run to the store.  Might as well put a huge sign out front that says "Rob us!".

17. Make items in your home easy to identify.  Paint them or scratch your name on them, etc.  This applies more to tools than anything else. 

18. Don't hide a key under the porcelain frog, door mat, flower pot, etc.  That's the first place they'll look.  Wrap it in oiled paper and put it in a plastic container.  Bury it somewhere in the yard that you can find it again.

19. If you rent a home, insist on the landlord replacing all the locks.  Otherwise, everyone that lived there, possibly their friends/boyfriends/relatives, etc has a key to your home.  The same goes for an apartment of course.

20. You can mount a can of pepper spray right on the back of the front door.  You'll never be completely defenseless when answering the door from now on.

21. If you have a garage door opener, and your house ever had any previous occupants, change the code.

22. Don't leave ladders, crowbars, and other implements of destruction lying around outside.  I know this seems obvious, but you'd be surprised...

23. If your house is opulent, and there is no question about whether or not you have desirable possessions, consider surveilance cameras.  You can monitor them from your computer while you are away on business.  In fact, I think you should be able to do it from an iPhone, Droid or something similar now.  Even the presence of the camera will deter some people.



There is another level of security one can employ for their home, but is is "architecturally determined" and, of course, is rather expensive.  Granted, if you've got that kind of money, you can hire someone a bit more in the game than I am, as my information might be incomplete due to an aging mind.

But certain principles die hard.  Thieves are opportunists.  They are also lazy.  If they weren't lazy, they'd be gainfully employed.  The very best ones won't bother with the average person's home.  The good news is: in all likelihood, you'll only ever have to worry about the stupid ones.

People that are concerned about their security are often derided as paranoid.  That's not true of course.  It's just that those pointing fingers don't know the difference between paranoid and diligence.

So here's the difference: the paranoid person fears everyone.  The diligent person fears the small number of dangerous and motivated people.

Plan as you see fit.  But remember, the only person truly responsible for your personal safety and security is you.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 06:00:20 AM »

My neighbor has a pit bull in the yard. Didn't slow this guy down at all.
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