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Title: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Everett McGill on January 17, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
Conehead posted this in another thread......wanted to copy it over here since it is NC Centric!


This weekend in Raleigh at the fairgrounds. Get there early as I would assume it is going to be extremely busy, I am.

http://dixiegunandknifeshow.com/pages/Raleigh-Show.html (http://dixiegunandknifeshow.com/pages/Raleigh-Show.html)


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Jeff G on January 17, 2013, 10:35:43 PM
Everett, I take it you will get there early, AND be extremely busy when you get there.

If it was anything like the recent gun show in Birmingham, you will be standing in about an hour long line waiting to get in, even if you're one of the early birds. But, in my opinion, the wait is well worth it.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Everett McGill on January 19, 2013, 07:37:40 AM
Everett, I take it you will get there early, AND be extremely busy when you get there.

If it was anything like the recent gun show in Birmingham, you will be standing in about an hour long line waiting to get in, even if you're one of the early birds. But, in my opinion, the wait is well worth it.

Headed out in about an hour.....It sounds like that's going to be too late!   I am curious to see how the prices have skyrocketed with all the recent political coverage of so many things.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: WolfpackFan on January 19, 2013, 08:09:30 AM
I heard from someone yesterday that AR-15's were running about 2 grand this year, and I think the .223 ammo is going for 400 dollars per 1000.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Silk_Hope on January 19, 2013, 10:17:55 AM
A friend posted a picture on FB showing the long line. Obama should be awarded gun salesman of the year.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: WolfpackFan on January 19, 2013, 12:54:50 PM
^He did say he was going to stimulate the economy.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Jeff G on January 19, 2013, 01:21:35 PM
I heard from someone yesterday that AR-15's were running about 2 grand this year, and I think the .223 ammo is going for 400 dollars per 1000.


You can still find many reasonable  priced firearms in the AR platform. Two days ago, I saw online where there were brand new, still in the box DPMS Panther Arms Oracle A3, .223 w/2 30 rd mags (no optics, flat top) for $899. There are several things coming back in at some of the internet dealers.

However, there is A LOT of price gouging going on as well due to the panic buying. As with most things, it really pays to shop around.

http://frontierfirearms.ca/index.php/dpms-panther-oracle-a3.html (http://frontierfirearms.ca/index.php/dpms-panther-oracle-a3.html)

Edited to add link


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: snowcamper on January 19, 2013, 02:15:10 PM
The show was just closed due to an accidental discharge at the check station.  It will reopen tomorrow.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Jeff G on January 19, 2013, 02:33:52 PM
The show was just closed due to an accidental discharge at the check station.  It will reopen tomorrow.


Good grief! Perhaps a false flag event?!  :-X

In all seriousness, I hope no one was hurt.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: WolfpackFan on January 19, 2013, 02:58:57 PM
I read a cop was checking a gun before allowing a patron to enter when it accidently went off.  It hit a man in the hand and a woman in the side.

Found a link: http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/ (http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/)

It also says it was not a cop, but an offical at a safety check-in station.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: 1911A on January 19, 2013, 04:00:28 PM
HA!  They closed comments at the article.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Patty52 on January 19, 2013, 04:40:51 PM
HA!  They closed comments at the article.

They are always closed on the weekends.

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This story is closed for comments. Comments on WRAL.com news stories are accepted and moderated between the hours of 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. Monday through Friday.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Everett McGill on January 20, 2013, 07:34:01 AM
I read a cop was checking a gun before allowing a patron to enter when it accidently went off.  It hit a man in the hand and a woman in the side.

Found a link: [url]http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/[/url] ([url]http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/[/url])

It also says it was not a cop, but an offical at a safety check-in station.

The TV news last night says that no gun show official (cop,check-in person, etc.) ever touched the shotgun........and speaking of that, it was a shotgun, something not even being mentioned as an "assault" rifle, or now as snooty Nora O'Donnel (along with others) is calling them;  Weapons of Mass Destruction.   


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Silk_Hope on January 20, 2013, 07:38:18 AM
They want all guns Everett, the "assault weapons" are the first step. The lefties wasnt to make people to believe that guns are like cigarettes, a public health hazard whose habit must be quit.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Everett McGill on January 20, 2013, 07:44:55 AM
They want all guns Everett, the "assault weapons" are the first step. The lefties wasnt to make people to believe that guns are like cigarettes, a public health hazard whose habit must be quit.

If we, as a country, spent half as much law enforcement effort (time, money, action etc. etc.) as we do on handing out speeding tickets and seat belt tickets,  on ENFORCING the existing gun laws and exacting penalties for violators, this discussion would not be happening.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Silk_Hope on January 20, 2013, 07:50:44 AM
Agreed, laws are already there but are not being enforced. We also need to promote training, classroom instruction is available free online and actual shooting courses are inexpensive and readily available. The truth is most law enforcement officers want to see properly trained people and are more than willing to assist. However, there are law enforcement officers that only shoot once a year to qualify yet do not practice using their self defense.


They want all guns Everett, the "assault weapons" are the first step. The lefties wasnt to make people to believe that guns are like cigarettes, a public health hazard whose habit must be quit.

If we, as a country, spent half as much law enforcement effort (time, money, action etc. etc.) as we do on handing out speeding tickets and seat belt tickets,  on ENFORCING the existing gun laws and exacting penalties for violators, this discussion would not be happening.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: WolfpackFan on January 20, 2013, 09:56:42 AM
I read a cop was checking a gun before allowing a patron to enter when it accidently went off.  It hit a man in the hand and a woman in the side.

Found a link: [url]http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/[/url] ([url]http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/[/url])

It also says it was not a cop, but an offical at a safety check-in station.

The TV news last night says that no gun show official (cop,check-in person, etc.) ever touched the shotgun........and speaking of that, it was a shotgun, something not even being mentioned as an "assault" rifle, or now as snooty Nora O'Donnel (along with others) is calling them;  Weapons of Mass Destruction.   


It appears the story changed about every hour yesterday.  You have to love the "got have some kind of story right now" media.  They can add the facts later.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Axiomatic on January 20, 2013, 11:36:21 AM
I read a cop was checking a gun before allowing a patron to enter when it accidently went off.  It hit a man in the hand and a woman in the side.

Found a link: [url]http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/[/url] ([url]http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/[/url])

It also says it was not a cop, but an offical at a safety check-in station.

The TV news last night says that no gun show official (cop,check-in person, etc.) ever touched the shotgun........and speaking of that, it was a shotgun, something not even being mentioned as an "assault" rifle, or now as snooty Nora O'Donnel (along with others) is calling them;  Weapons of Mass Destruction.   


Democratic Party: Weapons of Mass Destruction


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: kstraughn on January 20, 2013, 02:19:13 PM
I heard from someone that was there that the officer put the zip tie on the trigger without clearing the chamber.

One EYEWITNESS says the shotgun was laying on the table, law enforcement EYEWITNESS said the gun was still in the case, gun show officials said it was being removed from it's case.

No matter which story is correct, blame goes to the weapon clearing table personnel, what IDIOT clears a weapon with it pointed close to people?


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Everett McGill on January 20, 2013, 02:52:12 PM
I heard from someone that was there that the officer put the zip tie on the trigger without clearing the chamber.

One EYEWITNESS says the shotgun was laying on the table, law enforcement EYEWITNESS said the gun was still in the case, gun show officials said it was being removed from it's case.

No matter which story is correct, blame goes to the weapon clearing table personnel, what IDIOT clears a weapon with it pointed close to people?

I don't know.....maybe the same kind of idiot that brings a loaded shotgun to a gun show?


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Axiomatic on January 20, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
I heard from someone that was there that the officer put the zip tie on the trigger without clearing the chamber.

One EYEWITNESS says the shotgun was laying on the table, law enforcement EYEWITNESS said the gun was still in the case, gun show officials said it was being removed from it's case.

No matter which story is correct, blame goes to the weapon clearing table personnel, what IDIOT clears a weapon with it pointed close to people?

I don't know.....maybe the same kind of idiot that brings a loaded shotgun to a gun show?

Both excellent points. It grieves me to see such negligence within one of my chosen pursuits. My Pa taught me better I see it only going to further fan the flames against us.

(notice how I refrained from the "give them ammunition against us" pun? ;-)


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Pi on January 20, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
Here's a scary thought for you guys:

I know a guy who used to work at a gun shop.  A customer came in and asked to see a revolver.  The gun shop employee obliged but as was his custom, kept a close eye on the customer.  The customer slipped a live round into the chamber and closed it.  He put it back on the counter and asked to see another one.  At this point, the employee (as nonchalantly as possible) had his hand on his own gun, thinking that this might have been some kind of robbery attempt.  Instead, he hit the silent alarm and allowed the guy to look at a couple other guns in an effort to keep him busy, all the while making sure no one touched the loaded revolver.  Just as the guy started to walk out the door, the police arrived and arrested him.  Turns out, the guy was an anti-gun activist.  His hope was that the next customer would come in and accidentally shoot someone, thus resulting in negative press. 

Moral of the story: Never underestimate the willingness of the opposition to hurt people to make their point.  I know for a fact that other people have been caught loading rounds in guns at gun shows in an effort to cause trouble.  I can't speak to all of their motives, but this is why it is important to keep a sharp eye and obey all safety rules.


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Axiomatic on January 20, 2013, 11:52:10 PM
Interesting Pi - and disturbing as well. I was taught firing line diligence and overall sitrep but beyond maintaining a wary eye - even at the gunshow - I must admit that there can be aspects to the underhanded antics of totally unscrupulous people that I hadn't considered.

That said, another habit I learned from my Pa was to clear a weapon - even if the guy cleared it right before handing it to me (you should see the looks I get sometimes!).

 


Title: Re: Guns and Ammo this weekend in Raleigh
Post by: Everett McGill on January 21, 2013, 01:10:55 PM
Here's a scary thought for you guys:

I know a guy who used to work at a gun shop.  A customer came in and asked to see a revolver.  The gun shop employee obliged but as was his custom, kept a close eye on the customer.  The customer slipped a live round into the chamber and closed it.  He put it back on the counter and asked to see another one.  At this point, the employee (as nonchalantly as possible) had his hand on his own gun, thinking that this might have been some kind of robbery attempt.  Instead, he hit the silent alarm and allowed the guy to look at a couple other guns in an effort to keep him busy, all the while making sure no one touched the loaded revolver.  Just as the guy started to walk out the door, the police arrived and arrested him.  Turns out, the guy was an anti-gun activist.  His hope was that the next customer would come in and accidentally shoot someone, thus resulting in negative press. 

Moral of the story: Never underestimate the willingness of the opposition to hurt people to make their point.  I know for a fact that other people have been caught loading rounds in guns at gun shows in an effort to cause trouble.  I can't speak to all of their motives, but this is why it is important to keep a sharp eye and obey all safety rules.

Wow....never would have come up with that.......can see the possibility of it though.....