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Author Topic: WRAL-TV - Mom charged after daughter takes loaded gun to Chatham school  (Read 3654 times)
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2012, 01:47:32 PM »

I don't think it is an overreaction to expel someone who brings a loaded pistol to school. This was not a bb gun.

Common sense? Yeah, that is common sense.

If they just suspended the student for a month & then something worse happened down the road, all the usual suspects would probably be standing around whining about the school failing to take action to ensure the students safety after the first incident. Also, without removing the student as an example, the chance of other students doing something similar - or worse - most likely increases.


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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2012, 03:43:41 PM »

I agree that the 365 suspension may be necessary. I'm not as sure that a 10 yo should be criminally charged as Blahblah said happened.
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2012, 11:31:08 PM »

Commenting on Country Boy's posts: I believe a criminal charge imposed by law enforcement would only be incurred if you committed a crime.  What was the crime?

Also, to be suspended for 365 days for an alcohol offense, that would have to have been your THIRD offense of that type at school.  That is the policy.  Is that the case in your situation?
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« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2012, 09:35:01 PM »

@bear lover, my charge was consumption of alchol on school property. I was not breathilized and it was not proved. Yes I had other violations at school. But one was were I took a sip of vodka and a month later someone got caught with it and eventually someone said I had a sip. Blice told me if I told him who I got it from I would not get in trouble so I told himnext thing I know I'm getting suspended for ten days and forced to go to a class cause apparently I had a problem according to him
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2012, 08:58:17 AM »

@bear lover, my charge was consumption of alchol on school property. I was not breathilized and it was not proved. Yes I had other violations at school. But one was were I took a sip of vodka and a month later someone got caught with it and eventually someone said I had a sip. Blice told me if I told him who I got it from I would not get in trouble so I told himnext thing I know I'm getting suspended for ten days and forced to go to a class cause apparently I had a problem according to him

I have been staring at this response for about 10 minutes now....and thinking about your response on the other thread about "your generation" and discipline......anyway, before commenting,  can you please answer bearlover's first question?  (What was the criminal charge, and were you convicted?)

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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2012, 11:55:20 AM »

Um, all I can say is yep, apparently.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2012, 01:25:26 PM »

First sentence buddy. I was charged and plead guilty cause the agreement was it would drop the charge with a fine. And I know my spill on the other topic kinda contradicts this. But during my first two years o of high school I was heavily involved with drugs and ran with a bad crowd but I cleaned up my act
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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2012, 02:33:26 PM »

First sentence buddy. I was charged and plead guilty cause the agreement was it would drop the charge with a fine. And I know my spill on the other topic kinda contradicts this. But during my first two years o of high school I was heavily involved with drugs and ran with a bad crowd but I cleaned up my act

Thanks for sharing some very personal stuff, and I know I am not alone when I say I am glad to hear of the act cleaning and will continue to keep good thoughts and prayers going up for you.

As you continue to travel the road of life, gaining wisdom, please don't miss out on opportunities to appreciate that not everyone will think and act like you.  And, that may in fact be why they were placed in your path. 
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2012, 04:04:43 PM »

Lots of people have some hard times when they are young and make mistakes, myself included. The bigger picture is to stop the focus on blaming others and circumstance for your own careless choices and unwise decisions. When you stop putting yourself in bad situations, as it seems you may have learned, so-called 'random' bad things have a way of not happening quite so much.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2012, 04:56:24 PM »

If it was my fault I would have taken the blame I don't search out a scapegoat. I was not blaming anyone else that did not cause anything my friend. I own up to my mistakes. And I understand people t think different it makes the world go round
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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2012, 10:41:07 PM »

@Country Boy, it was my experience with my elementary school aged son that after he had a rocky couple of years of behavior problems, it didn't matter that his behavior changed and he started behaving better. There were extenuating circumstances in our home that a 6-8 year old child had trouble understanding let alone dealing with. When some of those issues changed, the behavior changed. The administrators at the elementary school continued to treat my son as if nothing had changed. He received very harsh punishments for minor infractions that his classmates received barely a hand slap for. He was also 'punished' due to my refusal to make him take adhd medications that several medical evaluations agreed he did not need. The school insisted that he needed them. He did not. I stopped getting the prescriptions filled. end of story, or so I thought. I finally had to move my son out of the CCS and into a Charter School because he was learning nothing and was being treated like a criminal.

Sorry this was off topic. I was responding to Country Boy.

On topic: The child was suspended. The parent should have the criminal charges, not the child.
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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2012, 07:29:01 AM »

I was told for years my parents divorce would cause problems that was never the case I just had a hell raising streak bout me as for the add stuff they tried the same thing but as with every kid elementary age I didn't care for school but drugs are always t the answear lol. Every one had those years of experimentation some last longer than others and goes farther
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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2012, 11:24:48 AM »

Some kids with an official ADHD diagnosis are helped greatly by medications, some are not. There is a great deal of clinical & biological evidence that documents it as an actual condition of the brain. However, the school is out of line and also unqualified to insist upon or offer any medical opinions. Suggesting it as a possible option is also different from pushing something, which in all my years I have seen very little. At the same time, if a parent has a hyperactive kid, and they have no interest in exploring any medications, it is up to them to find more opportunities for exercise and possible diet changes or other ways to deal with it. 
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