Racists in NAACP houses should not throw the race card

[NC YIPPIE]

CHF certainly does have a habit of calling people liars when it suits his needs. I think he just gets all worked up and starts running out of arrows. 

He likes to make things up like this:

"Most businesses that participated in racism, did so because there were laws MANDATING it."
 

and this

"EVERYONE believed they had WMD's"

and this

"We are dealing with the greatest environmental disaster in U.S. history by far, and yet we completely refuse any assistance?" (6/25)

and this

"Had GWB taken over SIX MILLION dollars in campaign assistance from BP as Senator Obama did in order to get elected President"

This is just too easy, but all in good fun. 

 

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

Surely no one who can read is stupid enough to ever again believe anything posted by bobsisyourliar. The video posted was actually this lady talking and it actually showed some very important things about attitudes within that meet in. Certainly the whole. Video may have contained some mitigating information and it is an intereesting question about why the NAACP member who sent the video to the blogger did not send the whole video. But even that does not equate to what bobsisyourliar did. The quote she attributed  to me was not mine ever under any circumstances, it was a complete and total fabrication. I expect nothing less from Beely than to support this liar to further his political views. It is certainly consistent with the pattern that he he has established under both or his known personas.   I admit to making errors and as a human I think that is to be expected, but I have never posted something that I knew to be false. BobsisyourliAr did knowingly fake a quote and attributed it to me. Then bobsisyourliar went back and tried to edit stuff to hide her true intent. The fact that I had captured the quote means the evidence remains here for all to see. Her words are empty and meaningless  because  she lacks the. basic component of actually believing what she says.

[mary51802]

Spell much? All the mispellings and broken words look like you had a liquid lunch 

[Silk_Hope]

Looks like he was on a cell phone.

[NC YIPPIE]

So does the same standard apply to your own posts above?

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

My understanding is that Breitbart did not call for the racist woman's termination.  He was posting the video THAT HE SAYS WAS SENT TO HIM FROM AN NAACP MEMBER to point up the crowd's reaction to her racism. She DID undoubtedly express racist views in that speech and they WERE undoubtedly cosigned by at least some members of the NAACP at that particular meeting. We must not lose the point, that though the historical purpose of the NAACP has been in opposition to racism, it has today a component of racism within its ranks. The video shows that to simply be a fact.  If we use the principle of equal measures, the organization that called for the Tea Party to take action against perceived racists in their midst, must take action against their own people who are perceived as racists.

Or can we acknowledge that in ANY large organization there are going to be a few fringe elements that do not represent the whole and that the whole must not be judged as the same as the few individuals?  The attacks on the Tea Partiers as racist, means that we must judge the NAACP as racist, if we apply their own standards to them.   So which standard should it be?  Assuming we use the same standard of judgment, are both the Tea Partiers and the NAACP members to be judged as individuals or as a monolithic group?  Videos have been shown here that the Tea Partiers STRONGLY object to racism in their midst and have stood opposed to it.  Video has also been shown here with a room full of people listening to the story of racism against a white farmer, while at least some people in the audience were shouting affirmation to the racism.  It is stipulated that later, the lady telling the story repented, to some degree, and that is a wonderful and good thing which should always be encouraged. But what about those racists shouting affirmation of the racist attitude shown in the video?  Should the NAACP expel those people, or should they accept them, and then for the sake of consistency, withdraw their recent attack on the Tea Party movement?

[1911A]

From none other than Willie Brown, himself:

As an old pro, though, I know that you don't fire someone without at least hearing their side of the story unless you want them gone in the first place.

This woman has been a thorn in the side of the Agriculture Department for years. She was part of a class-action lawsuit against the department on behalf of black farmers in the South. For years, she has been operating a community activist organization not unlike ACORN.

I think there were those in the Agriculture Department who objected to her being hired in the first place.

Plus there was the politics. If you are running for election in south Georgia, you don't want to have to explain someone like Sherrod.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/25/BAP01EIKK2.DTL#ixzz0vCDz3GbD

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

She sure has more than her fair share of issues, but you still should fire someone for what they did, not some uninvestigated charge.  This would get a manager fired anywhere I have ever worked. But, I doubt anyone really wants to hold Obama accountable.  If they wanted to fire her, why not fire her for real reasons?

[Beel]

It's remarkable that this thread still stands, with the edited Breitbart video, as though it had never been conclusively shown that Mrs. Sherrod's entire speech conveys the opposite meaning of what the Brietbart edit of it appeared to show.  Over a week later and CHF is still calling her a racist rather than simply admitting that Bobs has long ago illustrated conclusively how such edits can reverse the meaning of a statement--in that case, CHF's own statement.  Still he blathers on, calling a woman of character who endured her own father's murder at the hands of unknown persons and still found it in her heart to forgive, a "racist."  Anything, anything at all, but admit that he could possibly be wrong about anything, ever.  I guess that's one kind of stereotype of a father figure. 

[chrstnhsbndfthr]

Beely, you should actually read the posts you comment on. And lying about what Bobs did is foolish. Read the record on that too. She did not clip what I wrote, she faked it completely.  I NEVER said what she claimed I said. Sherrod said exactly what the video shows her saying. It says more too.  But there was no fake quotes. It was her own words, on video.  And it showed the racist reaction of at least some members of the crowd at the NAACP meeting. Facts man, try them. You might even become more conservative if you let a little truth into your life.

[1911A]

She sure has more than her fair share of issues, but you still should fire someone for what they did, not some uninvestigated charge.  This would get a manager fired anywhere I have ever worked. But, I doubt anyone really wants to hold Obama accountable.  If they wanted to fire her, why not fire her for real reasons?

Could come down to ideology; I'd say it does.  From what I've been reading about the "Pigford" case, there's a whole lot of shady shenanigans happened with it, but the left is not going to break precedent now and admit wrongdoing, or abetting wrongdoing, from those they consider "their side".  The Sherrods are the "party" in the suit that benefitted the most handsomely from the suit their "foundation" formed to do so.  Here's a piece that outlines the background and timeline, and it contains a link to another breakdown of the numbers; doesn't look kosher to me, matter of fact it stinks and the left doesn't want the smell sticking to them.

[Beel]

I certainly did read the exchange between you and Bobs.  Maybe you should read it, instead of leaping to erroneous conclusions and the sticking to them to the end of time.  She edited your words and then explained to you exactly what she was doing, to illustrate exactly what happened to Mrs Sherrod.  And since you're so upset (if you are), you are but one baby step from actually empathizing with the lady.  Except of course you didn't get hung out to dry on Fox News or have your job taken away from you by your employer, by phone no less, with no prior notice, based on an intentional editing of something you said which was then sent out to Fox News. 

Re the Pigford Case--that's called changing the subject, Mr. Gun.  The subject is the Brietbart "dirty trick" (to use the term of art used by Mr. Nixon), which you continue to leave in place even after you know that it's a lie. 

[mary51802]

I did extensive research on Breitbart this week and he is a radical idiot for sure. So hateful of everyone who thinks differently than he does.
He says so many hateful things on the many webpages I looked at. He should be ashamed of doing this at all.
This is as bad as the leftists who stand in Tea Party rallies as a decoy holding racist signs. Or the left leaning media last night about thr AZ rally in Raleigh. They said masses of people from around the state came to protest AZ. Turns out to be 250 people. Not masses.

All radicals on both sides simply have their own agendas. We have to think around them.

[1911A]

I did extensive research on Breitbart this week and he is a radical idiot for sure. So hateful of everyone who thinks differently than he does.
He says so many hateful things on the many webpages I looked at. He should be ashamed of doing this at all.
This is as bad as the leftists who stand in Tea Party rallies as a decoy holding racist signs. Or the left leaning media last night about thr AZ rally in Raleigh. They said masses of people from around the state came to protest AZ. Turns out to be 250 people. Not masses.

All radicals on both sides simply have their own agendas. We have to think around them.

Really.  Like what, exactly.  Maybe a linkup.  You shouldn't be throwing around such accusations without it.

[mary51802]

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/andrew-breitbart-nightline-terry-moran-interview/story?id=11220699

says "uppity blacks" here

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,597324,00.html

he says he created the tape to fight the racist accusations at the Tea Party.  (very childish and counterproductive)

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/andrew-breitbart-to-cnns-john-king-i-did-not-fire-shirley-sherrod/

here he says it was alright to edit the tape to make a point.



Wrong! This is just race baiting. If he honestly wanted to make a point just leave the tape as is. Why did he doctor it? He is no better than the other side of it. He could spend his time better encouraging people to vote Republican instead of using schoolyard tactics.

Just my OPINION. Sorry we do not agree. We are all allowed our thoughts.

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