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Author Topic: Women's Media Center Objects to Newsweek Pin-up Girl Cover of Sarah Palin  (Read 1415 times)
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2009, 05:02:47 PM »


Isn't if funny how the left has always tried to position themselves as being about "women's rights", and then when the Repubs actually run a female VP, it becomes all about her "sexuality" instead of her "gender".


Why don't you try running one that wasn't a former beauty pageant winner and see if you get the same reaction. How about Olympia Snowe?

Not sure if you realize just how prejudiced you just came across there Claude.

As far as Snowe is concerned...absolutely not.  She's far too liberal.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2009, 05:57:51 PM »


Not sure if you realize just how prejudiced you just came across there Claude.

As far as Snowe is concerned...absolutely not.  She's far too liberal.

Nice deflection, but the point remains that the women running for the highest offices on the Democratic ticket have been women of substance like Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro. The Republicans, when they finally have a candidate for a top office select a brainless beauty queen.
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2009, 06:01:04 PM »

I assume that picture of Palin was made with her knowledge.  If they didn't have permission to use her picture then she has a right to complain.  If they did, she has no business complaining.  As to their choice to use that picture, I agree that it is sexist.

Ditto SBB.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2009, 06:45:47 PM »

I'm amazed that no one has complained about the blatant disrespect for the US flag in that photo.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2009, 08:13:09 PM »

The Women's Media Center is speaking out against the cover, in a formal press release.

Here's what Newsweek said:
"We chose the most interesting image available to us to illustrate the theme of the cover, which is what we always try to do," editor Jon Meacham told the Huffington Post. "We apply the same test to photographs of any public figure, male or female: Does the image convey what we are saying? That is a gender-neutral standard."

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/11/18/newsweek-defends-sexist-cover-photo-of-sarah-palin/
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2009, 08:22:02 PM »

First of all, I don't see what a big issue this is.  For one thing, I wasn't aware that people still read Newsweek.  They may get a boost in circulation out of this. 

Seems like the best thing to do is say "no comment".  If you rise to the bait and get bent out of shape everytime some opinion rag puts you on the cover, they know they can keep using you to keep them relevant.


HEAR, HEAR Leeb! As long as Palin continues to whine about the EVIL media - but continues to respond to every superficial report about her she will never be credible to me. If she would stop commenting on her son in law's activities and tabloid trash she's playing the game. I would say that she should should focus on policy related matters, but she has never done that, so I won't insist that she should. She's pop culture - period. Not a leader and certainly NOT the leader of my Party.

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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2009, 08:40:14 PM »

If she would stop commenting on her son in law's activities and tabloid trash she's playing the game. I
That's when she is in her comfort zone. If she doesn't keep the dialogue focused on the tabloid stuff, someone might ask her something embarrassing about the Truman Doctrine.
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2009, 08:49:34 PM »

If she would stop commenting on her son in law's activities and tabloid trash she's playing the game. I
That's when she is in her comfort zone. If she doesn't keep the dialogue focused on the tabloid stuff, someone might ask her something embarrassing about the Truman Doctrine.

Or maybe her latest Moose recipe..since she is all about books lately, maybe she should do a cookbook also, just to catapult herself a little more, being the Rogue image and all.... laugh laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2009, 11:09:18 PM »

Then I guess Obama picked Biden, who is by most accounts a drunken idiot...


No, most accounts are that he is a teetotaler.  You probably have some inside information.

Father’s Tough Life an Inspiration for Biden

...Though Joe Sr. was not a heavy drinker, alcohol flowed freely in the Finnegan house and in the neighborhood. Joe Jr. saw the toll it took on his family, his neighbors and, later, on his little brother Frankie. “Every family had it,” said Tom Bell, one of Senator Biden’s childhood friends from Scranton who remains close to him. “But the Finnegans had more than their share.”

Senator Biden does not drink at all, and he is frank about the reason. “There are enough alcoholics in my family,” he said last month as he sipped cranberry juice on a train ride from Washington to Wilmington...


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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2009, 11:18:34 PM »

If she would stop commenting on her son in law's activities and tabloid trash she's playing the game. I
That's when she is in her comfort zone. If she doesn't keep the dialogue focused on the tabloid stuff, someone might ask her something embarrassing about the Truman Doctrine.

I thought her complaint against Katie Couric was a little clueless.  She said she thought the interview was going to be two working moms talking about their teenage daughters etc.

This was one of her first major interviews as a vice presidential candidate. She would have had a legitimate complaint if  they had only expected her to talk about being a working mother.  Instead she complains because the interview related to the job.
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2009, 12:20:59 PM »


Not sure if you realize just how prejudiced you just came across there Claude.

As far as Snowe is concerned...absolutely not.  She's far too liberal.

Nice deflection, but the point remains that the women running for the highest offices on the Democratic ticket have been women of substance like Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro. The Republicans, when they finally have a candidate for a top office select a brainless beauty queen.

That wasn't a deflection Claude.  I was simply pointing out a double standard.

Your argument completely falls apart when it comes to the issue of Biden, who seemingly can't keep his foot out of his mouth.

Also, she was the governor of Alaska, something you left out when you listed her attributes as "brainless" and "beauty queen".

Look, I don't think Palin was the best choice.  I'm not a huge fan of her.  I like her stance on many issues, but I don't like the way she conducts herself in front of the camera.

Also, I don't know what you mean by "finally have a candidate for a top office". 

All I know is if I'd said something along the same lines you did, I'd be hearing it from all sorts of liberals on the board about how "sexist" I was.  Gosh knows belle would be all over it.

But they give you a pass, presumably because it's Palin and you're "one of them".  And to think how much the left loves accusing the right of tolerating bigots.

Wonder what kind of strategy Beel would call yours?  Southern is already taken.  Perhaps Western?  Eastern?  Who knows?


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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2009, 01:24:11 PM »

Let's review what it was I said that you think justifies your calling me a bigot.
 
Why don't you try running one that wasn't a former beauty pageant winner and see if you get the same reaction. How about Olympia Snowe?

It says nothing negative about female candidates in general. It clearly asks why your party doesn't select a qualified female (when they finally get around to putting one on the ticket) instead of Palin, who was apparently selected for her packaging instead of her qualifications.

For the record, I voted for Mondale and Ferraro, and, I supported and voted for Hillary Clinton in the primary.

So go throw your mud somewhere its more likely to stick.
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2009, 05:50:28 PM »

Let's review what it was I said that you think justifies your calling me a bigot.
 

The fact is quite sufficient to justify the charge.

In 1984 I wasted no time discussing Geraldine Ferraro, but she was clearly a third tier candidate placed on the ballot merely BECAUSE she was a woman. She brought nothing else to the ticket. 

You might well have real policy disagreements with Governor Palin, but she WAS a sitting Governor, when chosen, making her the only one on either ticket with actual executive leadership experience.  Her appeal was deep and wide, and it resonated with people who only knew her record on paper. Her actual leadership and her accomplishments were impressive, whether for a man or a woman. She did not need to be given any extra points as a pretty woman. Many of us had never seen a picture of her. It was nothing to do with her looks, but her appeal, in common sense terms, to the average American frightens the far left and their allies in the even further left media to the point they will stop at no dirty trick to cut her.  Here is the difference that people like Claude hope we will not notice.  Ferraro was such a lightweight that no time need be wasted discussing her lack of qualifications.  Governor Palin was such a real threat to them that they can find nothing so low that they will not use it to attack her, her family, her religion, her high school, her education, her decision not to abort her child, her daughter's boyfriend, etc.... nothing....not a single thing, has been off limits.  She frightens them so badly that they must continue the attack even after the election is over, for they fear her rise to run again.  Why waste the energy on the concerted attack otherwise? Hate born of fear should be beneath my friends on the left, but clearly it is not. Ferarro writes and speaks and makes media appearances, and the right does not care.  She is insignificant, in spite of those things. And unworthy of my concern.  In other words she is no threat to the Republic. 

The comparison of Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton might be more interesting.  Sarah rose to power purely on her own accomplishments. Her husband is a relative unknown.  Hillary rose to power on her husband's coat tails. She is considered a viable presidential candidate, not because she served part of a senate term, but because she was married to a president.  As far as comparative accomplishments when Hillary ran for president, she had no executive leadership experience(If sleeping with President Clinton qualified her, it qualified many women in the same time period) and very little elective office experience. In a heads up comparison, Governor Palin was head and shoulders above Senator Clinton.  And, as the case was made many times during the campaign, she was more experienced than Senator Obama, spending more time in actual executive leadership than he had spent in the Federal government. Compare actual days of legislative experience, and it gets really embarrassing for him. That lack of experience appears to be showing up now.

The bigotry is that you use different standards of measure for a woman who is a conservative.  In your own pettiness you count Geraldine Ferarro and Hillary Clinton as well qualified, but someone who comes out much better in any fair comparison of qualifications must be unqualified in your mind, because she is a conservative woman instead of a liberal woman.
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2009, 06:02:46 PM »

CHF, that's a totally cherry-picked way to frame those two tickets, and you know it.  By your argument, McCain was weaker than Palin--are you actually saying that?  (And if not, are you honest enough to admit it?)  Mrs. Palin dug her own trench as she moved through the campaign, interview after interview, speech after speech.  The portrait of herself is 95% her own doing, not some sneaky hatchetjob.  And she keeps on doing it today, on her own book tour, with nothing to lose but the money she's raking in.  She got booed in Indiana yesterday because she got tired of signing books and left too many in the throng emptyhanded.  As someone on the web pointed out--correctly I thought--she's trying to be a country music star but doesn't understand that the country music audience expects their stars to hang around and sign autographs as long as they wait for them. 

If she was such a great chief exec., what the heck did she quit the job for?  She wants to be a media star and rake it in--isn't that obvious to you yet? 
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2009, 06:25:05 PM »

Yes,

Absolutely, Senator McCain was weaker than a governor as a candidate and as a potential leader. I thought it the one courageous thing he did, to choose a more qualified person than himself to put on the ticket.  I wish to goodness Senator Obama had possessed the same courage. At least we could hope he would step down and let a more qualified person run the country. Now we do not even have that hope, with Biden up next. We have had dismal experience in this country, as we are seeing now, with promoting senators.  The Governorships have been for the most part, the proving grounds for our successful presidents.  I believed then that it was wrong to choose a Senator for the top of our ticket, even a former war hero like McCain.
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