WRAL-TV - Law challenged after sex offender arrested for going to church

[NC YIPPIE]

I didn't take it out, read what I posted - '4 times more likely than other criminals who are released.' Why do you find it necessary to make things up? What I pointed out again, for those who missed it, was that these folks are 4 times more likely than the other prisoners to be rearrested for a sex crime. So if you are worried about sex crimes, these folks would be higher on the list than the other former prisoners. If these folks lived next door to you, they would be 4 times more likely than most criminals to be arrested for a sex crime. Get it now? They included that fact in the summary of the report because it is something to note, not because it doesn't mean anything. Nice try though.

You may need to read the other part back, as I never said you were 'trying' to do anything. You made that up as well. It is pure logic that if these men go to that church and there are children being cared for at that church, they are closer to those children. I did not make that up.

So who is it that needs to read more closely? The study I cited came from the same csom page you linked to above. Again, you make the point that my position on under-reporting is not valid, while you make 'Does it not logically follow' claims with no evidence. 

Under 39 percent of all rapes and sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement (Shannan M. Catalano, 2003).
http://www.icasa.org/docs/2003_criminal_victimization.pdf

Compare this to the stats for other crimes (in the same U.S. Department of Justice report) and you will see the evidence.

'Logical solutions' should always include a healthy dose of common sense.

Likewise, unsolicited 'tips' on grammar or spelling or whatever are considered tacky. No offense, you'll get the hang of this soon enough.

[NC YIPPIE]

Dude, you came into this thread shouting 'BS" and then criticized others for not backing up their opinions with evidence, while doing the exact same thing yourself with other points. Do you understand that by making jokes about how easily duped people are or about waterfront property sales or how great your Google skills are - you are also taking cheap shots? That you sound like a know-it-all?

Also, when you use language like "your clever little find" or "Perhaps you didn't notice" or "your terrible parsing" - that's called being obnoxious. Perhaps you didn't know that, but judging from your intelligence I would say that is a long shot. You're not deaf & dumb. 

I don't think anyone who read this back would think I was being especially rude, I was just giving your little intellectual-self-high-five party a little debate. The other 'pick up my toys and go home' thing you are doing in that last post is also very typical of newbies.

This is a discussion board, so if you drop a few snide comments, you might get a few back. But it's all in good fun, so go have a beer and come on back some other time. Happy to have you posting on here, we could use some new faces and voices.




 

[belle]

Enjoy your V&.  「ヨイッピはくそばかやろうです」

ok, my very best friend in the world developed this keyboard for the Korean Olympics, for IBM, and I don't think she would like to know it was being used to score f^ck-you points with anyone, much less fellow Chathamites.

[belle]

Enjoy your V&.  「ヨイッピはくそばかやろうです」

ok, my very best friend in the world developed this keyboard for the Korean Olympics, for IBM, and I don't think she would like to know it was being used to score f^ck-you points with anyone, much less fellow Chathamites.

LOL, Korean.

meaning?

[bluetick67]

Google Translate --> detect language > English  =

[NC YIPPIE]

オタクそのようなことを申し上げたいと  

[Silk_Hope]

「ヨイッピはくそばかやろうです」

AWESOME!!!

[NC YIPPIE]

Reliance on measures of recidivism as reflected through official criminal justice system data obviously omit offenses that are not cleared through an arrest or those that are never reported to the police. This distinction is critical in the measurement of recidivism of sex offenders. For a variety of reasons, sexual assault is a vastly underreported crime. The National Crime Victimization Surveys (Bureau of Justice Statistics) conducted in 1994, 1995, and 1998 indicate that only 32 percent (one out of three) of sexual assaults against persons 12 or older are reported to law enforcement. A three-year longitudinal study (Kilpatrick, Edmunds, and Seymour, 1992) of 4,008 adult women found that 84 percent of respondents who identified themselves as rape victims did not report the crime to authorities.

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In addition, research using information generated through polygraph examinations on a sample of imprisoned sex offenders with fewer than two known victims (on average), found that these offenders actually had an average of 110 victims and 318 offenses (Ahlmeyer, Heil, McKee, and English, 2000). Another polygraph study found a sample of imprisoned sex offenders to have extensive criminal histories, committing sex crimes for an average of 16 years before being caught (Ahlmeyer, English, and Simons, 1999).

http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html

[bobsyouruncle]

Ok, let me see if I can find the other article I read on this thing. It said that although the legal issue is about the nursery, that both of these men have also had contact with some of the teenage girls that go to this church. I don't know the facts, I'm not alleging anything, but common sense would say that you just have to be extra careful and error on the side of caution - not on the side of the convicts. Why is religion different from something else, in a legal sense, anyway? If you can't go within 300 feet of a childcare facility, you can't. Does it matter if it is next to a church or next to a pool hall? 

I agreed with this post the first time I read it, and I still do. 

[RJLeeb]

I was going to read back through the thread to see if someone had said this earlier...but then I got side tracked with the Korean insult thing...and somehow ended up looking at clever ascii drawings.  Anyway...I don't feel like reading back through so this might be a repeat.

I think the really interesting question to ask here is whether or not it is constitutional to keep punishing someone after they have already done their time.  In essence, we are punishing someone based on the possibility they will commit a crime.

I see both sides of it.  This is one of those constitutional issues that I'm on the fence about, and have been for a long time.

[NC YIPPIE]

make the restriction part of the official criminal sentence

Works for me.

[bac]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6640719/

Judge Baddour overturns the law as unconstitutionally vague.

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