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« on: March 02, 2009, 05:06:39 PM »

"Obama's Trade Representative pick owes $10,000 in back taxes"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29470266/

"The disclosure made the former Dallas mayor the latest in a string of top-level Obama administration appointees found to have underpaid their taxes, following Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and Tom Daschle, who withdrew as candidate for Health and Human Services secretary. Nancy Killefer, Obama's pick for chief performance officer, also bowed out amid tax problems."

Beel, Felt, Heel, Grumble, girl, etc.?  Do none of you have problems with this?

If this had happened to Bush (and it did), the nominees never would have made it (and they didn't).  You guys all seem happy to be on the "tax the rich" bandwagon, but what about just collecting taxes owed?  No wonder these people feel as though they're entitled to take other peoples' money...they know they'll never have to feel the same pain.

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 05:08:56 PM »

I am very surprised that so many of these nominees have tax issues.  It would almost be funny at this point if it weren't, you know, illegal.  I'm not sure what else I can really say about it.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 05:12:07 PM »

Thanks, Heel, you've always been the more level headed one....

At least there's some honesty on the other side of the debate, and it is appreciated.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 05:14:52 PM »

I think Geithner is a separate issue since the mistake that was made is quite a common error according to the IRS.  He paid up soon after he was notified of the error.  

The other two, frankly, are appalling and should be completely ashamed as should the individuals that were tasked to vet the candidates.  They simply should never have been allowed to be nominated in the first place.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 05:16:58 PM »

This guy is hardly public enemy number one. He routinely donated all his speaking fees to charity and didn't claim them as income per the letter of the law. Sounds to me like he just had a crummy accountant. If he had just had the checks made directly payable to the charity it wouldn't even be an issue.

I think if they really want to keep the guy out of office, they should question his sanity for paying what he did for Mavericks tickets. You couldn't pay me to sit through another pro basketball game.
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 05:18:27 PM »

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/693695.html

Yes, it seems quite widespread. I'll spare you of more cases for now Wink
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 05:19:09 PM »

I think Geithner is a separate issue since the mistake that was made is quite a common error according to the IRS.  He paid up soon after he was notified of the error.  

The other two, frankly, are appalling and should be completely ashamed as should the individuals that were tasked to vet the candidates.  They simply should never have been allowed to be nominated in the first place.


I can understand a tax mistake...but do any of these guys ever pay their taxes properly...I am amazed and appalled...wonder how much money the citiznes of this nation would find if everyone who is in the government ie Senate and House...were to be audited like they were all going to be offered a cabinet position...just sayin' ...hubby and I just finished paying off the federal taxes we owed from getting our 401k's out early and it took us years...glad it is over and maybe there needs to be more audits.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 05:24:43 PM »

I think Geithner is a separate issue since the mistake that was made is quite a common error according to the IRS.  He paid up soon after he was notified of the error.  

The other two, frankly, are appalling and should be completely ashamed as should the individuals that were tasked to vet the candidates.  They simply should never have been allowed to be nominated in the first place.


I can understand a tax mistake...but do any of these guys ever pay their taxes properly...I am amazed and appalled...wonder how much money the citiznes of this nation would find if everyone who is in the government ie Senate and House...were to be audited like they were all going to be offered a cabinet position...just sayin' ...hubby and I just finished paying off the federal taxes we owed from getting our 401k's out early and it took us years...glad it is over and maybe there needs to be more audits.

The bigger question to me is, are the tax laws so complicated that it very easy to miss something, esp. when you get to these income levels?  I wonder what percentage of IRS Audits find something.  I need Seavey on this.
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2009, 05:28:09 PM »

I think Geithner is a separate issue since the mistake that was made is quite a common error according to the IRS.  He paid up soon after he was notified of the error.  

The other two, frankly, are appalling and should be completely ashamed as should the individuals that were tasked to vet the candidates.  They simply should never have been allowed to be nominated in the first place.


I can understand a tax mistake...but do any of these guys ever pay their taxes properly...I am amazed and appalled...wonder how much money the citiznes of this nation would find if everyone who is in the government ie Senate and House...were to be audited like they were all going to be offered a cabinet position...just sayin' ...hubby and I just finished paying off the federal taxes we owed from getting our 401k's out early and it took us years...glad it is over and maybe there needs to be more audits.

The bigger question to me is, are the tax laws so complicated that it very easy to miss something, esp. when you get to these income levels?  I wonder what percentage of IRS Audits find something.  I need Seavey on this.

that's a good point.  I was trying to do my taxes, today, and it's amazing how complicated it gets if you have anything other than the basics: w2's and mortgage interest.  That doesn't mean I'm for the fair tax, but it would be nice if things were simpler!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 05:28:26 PM »

I think Geithner is a separate issue since the mistake that was made is quite a common error according to the IRS.  He paid up soon after he was notified of the error.  

The other two, frankly, are appalling and should be completely ashamed as should the individuals that were tasked to vet the candidates.  They simply should never have been allowed to be nominated in the first place.


I can understand a tax mistake...but do any of these guys ever pay their taxes properly...I am amazed and appalled...wonder how much money the citiznes of this nation would find if everyone who is in the government ie Senate and House...were to be audited like they were all going to be offered a cabinet position...just sayin' ...hubby and I just finished paying off the federal taxes we owed from getting our 401k's out early and it took us years...glad it is over and maybe there needs to be more audits.

The bigger question to me is, are the tax laws so complicated that it very easy to miss something, esp. when you get to these income levels?  I wonder what percentage of IRS Audits find something.  I need Seavey on this.

What it looks like to me is the "big" boys don't pay their taxes and lots of the little guys get nailed for owing...I am not complaining about having to pay for years becuase I had too get out the money or die...literally but man why are these folks not paying what they owe...and where are these IRS folks and their damned audits?
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2009, 05:34:50 PM »

Heel you are a math expert so let me ask you, at one time taxes and forms were designed for an 8th grader to do. In your opinion are they? If you are having trouble I don't feel so bad using TurboTax.

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2009, 05:44:41 PM »

2 thoughts on taxes

1>  You could take your taxes to 4 different accountants/tax preparers and probably wind up with 4 different answers, especially if you have your own business, rental property, farm, stock sales, etc.

2>  When you have your taxes done this year find out the total federal, state and soc. security taxes for the year and compare that to your house payment and utility bills.  I'm just about willing to bet that for most of us the taxes will be higher than our housing expenses and IMO that's a crying shame.
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2009, 05:46:47 PM »

Heel you are a math expert so let me ask you, at one time taxes and forms were designed for an 8th grader to do. In your opinion are they? If you are having trouble I don't feel so bad using TurboTax.



I use turbo tax too, but I have some kind of form learning disability, I am terrible at filling forms out.  

I think the basic 1040 form, etc, is pretty easy (although I would still use turbo tax.)  It's when all these other 1099 and other kinds of garbage come in that things become complicated.  My husband and I do some work on the side for different companies, and they pay us as independent contractors.  We have to basically fill out a bunch of extra stuff like we're self employed.  That's the part that always makes my head spin, and it's all over a few hundred dollars.

My tax bill is not as much as my housing bill.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2009, 05:53:08 PM »

I am glad to know I am not the only form challenged individual here.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2009, 05:56:26 PM »

I am very surprised that so many of these nominees have tax issues.  It would almost be funny at this point if it weren't, you know, illegal.  I'm not sure what else I can really say about it.

Heel, what a great way to sum up this situation.

You would think at this point, the first question to a prospective nominee would be "do you owe any back taxes?" and the second question would be "are you absolutely sure?".
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